All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed.

Simple as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Athmet replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:11:04 am PDT
Athmet replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:11:04 am PDT

Preach brother !

طز فيك replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:11:40 am PDT
طز فيك replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:11:40 am PDT

No proof = I don't believe you

Confusing Zark replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:32:15 am PDT
Confusing Zark replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:32:15 am PDT

yes, becomes removing them means they are wrong not that you are afraid they might be right. It would be better to engage them than to censor them

Ape replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:34:20 am PDT
Ape replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:34:20 am PDT

Everyone is innocent until it's proven guilty and not vica versa... Simple as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Want proof? Ask the devs to prove it.

Shidhed replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:35:47 am PDT
Shidhed replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:35:47 am PDT

They becoming boring and tie up too many threads with useless whining.

Altimely replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:54:27 am PDT
Altimely replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:54:27 am PDT

Originally posted by Confusing Zark:
yes, becomes removing them means they are wrong not that you are afraid they might be right. It would be better to engage them than to censor them

Asking people to show proof of an accusation is engaging them.

Originally posted by Ape:
Everyone is innocent until it's proven guilty and not vica versa... Simple as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Want proof? Ask the devs to prove it.

Ask the devs to prove... what? I'm asking the players to substantiate accusations.

Ape replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:56:48 am PDT
Ape replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:56:48 am PDT

Ask the devs to prove... what? I'm asking the players to substantiate accusations.

Devs have more information of why players got banned than the players themselves. Most players banned innocently or a reason that is not stated. That being said, you expect the players to record literally everything they do during play? It's a tadbit more simple to ask the devs why they got banned in the first place.

Mr Fred replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:57:27 am PDT
Mr Fred replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:57:27 am PDT

Originally posted by Altimely:
All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. Simple as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"Gaslighting a known issue, baiting and backseat moderating."

Thats what I wrote when I reported you, enjoy!

Ivory Templar replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:59:06 am PDT
Ivory Templar replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 10:59:06 am PDT

They should also be switching the forum so that you can only post if you own the game. Right now these boards are just a toxic cesspool of trolls. There's virtually no reason for them to even exist.

Altimely replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:00:26 am PDT
Altimely replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:00:26 am PDT

Originally posted by Mr Fred:
Originally posted by Altimely:
All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. Simple as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
"Gaslighting a known issue, baiting and backseat moderating."

Thats what I wrote when I reported you, enjoy!

Prove it's a known issue with providing evidence :)

borisbadenov replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:01:05 am PDT
borisbadenov replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:01:05 am PDT

All threads complaining about threads complaing about bans should be removed.

Chuck replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:06:07 am PDT
Chuck replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:06:07 am PDT

Originally posted by Altimely:
Originally posted by Confusing Zark:
yes, becomes removing them means they are wrong not that you are afraid they might be right. It would be better to engage them than to censor them

Asking people to show proof of an accusation is engaging them.

Originally posted by Ape:
Everyone is innocent until it's proven guilty and not vica versa... Simple as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Want proof? Ask the devs to prove it.

Ask the devs to prove... what? I'm asking the players to substantiate accusations.
The problem is Amazon is quite literally not telling people why they were banned. How exactly do you expect people to show why they were banned if the company that banned them won't give them that information? I'm not naive enough to believe every banned person is innocent but I'm also not egotistical enough to believe that all of these bans are warranted. You're refusing to believe that there COULD be an issue with bans because they don't provide proof yet you easily believe that every thread about a ban is lying and deserved, also with no proof. The ban isn't proof anymore than a cop arresting the wrong person means that person is guilty because the cop arrested them.

Ape replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:07:55 am PDT
Ape replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:07:55 am PDT

Originally posted by Chuck:
Originally posted by Altimely:

Asking people to show proof of an accusation is engaging them.



Ask the devs to prove... what? I'm asking the players to substantiate accusations.
The problem is Amazon is quite literally not telling people why they were banned. How exactly do you expect people to show why they were banned if the company that banned them won't give them that information? I'm not naive enough to believe every banned person is innocent but I'm also not egotistical enough to believe that all of these bans are warranted. You're refusing to believe that there COULD be an issue with bans because they don't provide proof yet you easily believe that every thread about a ban is lying and deserved, also with no proof. The ban isn't proof anymore than a cop arresting the wrong person means that person is guilty because the cop arrested them.

+1 perfect explanation. Thank you for explaining that I couldn't.

castitatis replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:08:55 am PDT
castitatis replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:08:55 am PDT

Originally posted by Ape:
Everyone is innocent until it's proven guilty and not vica versa... Simple as ¯\_(ツ)_/¯. Want proof? Ask the devs to prove it.
I do believe, If I start yelling that someone did something bad to me, I am the party needing to procure proof of such thing happening.

If you're saying you got banned, posting a imgur link showing such did happen and why, would just be showing proof of something happening and far from unreasonable.

Cuddle Bunny! replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:09:37 am PDT
Cuddle Bunny! replied to All threads claiming a ban without proof should be removed. October 6, 2021 @ 11:09:37 am PDT

Where there is smoke there is fire don't fool yourself